New Feature! Daisy Chaining two StudioLive mixers!
Hey Folks,
We made a cool announcement about the first firmware update coming for the StudioLive. This will let you link two StudioLive consoles together to create a 32x4x2 mixer. Check it out!
Awesome! One thing... When daisy chaining, I let the user select if the subgroups buses will sum or not. Think about.... if I need to "group channels" (e.g drums, percussion, back vocals, etc.) to main, I will able to do 4 different groups PER console (so "pseudo" 8 bus total), summed via master mix bus. Cheers!!!
Hi Rens, Thanks for your comments. One product idea I had was a little usb remote for Capture that would simply arm all the tracks and give you a transport. (kinda like the old Alesis BRC was for the ADAT). Don't know if it would happen, but if enough StudioLive customers want it, I'm sure we'll make one.
Wow Rick, it's getting better and better... What about the good old (well, mine is pretty new actually) Mackie Control, will it be able to control Capture??
I posted this in another part of this blog but thought it might be a bit dated and so re-posted here. Just watched the videos and gotta say I'm impressed. I've been shopping for a mixer for several weeks now for my studio and almost committed to another brand. One question however. I can appreciate not including moving faders to keep the price down but will the faders generate any type of midi message at all. This would allow for automating your DAW faders while mixing in the box. This would allow for the option of either mixing via the board or in the daw. I can assign the faders on my Axiom keyboard to the faders in my daw but doing it with 100mm faders would allow for much greater control.
Do you think that it'd be possible in the future to also be able to use 6 auxes per console if you're daisy chaining? I was very excited when I heard that you could now daisy chain the mixers, but the idea of using 2 efx per console ****then in the future (if possible)**** having 4 subgroups, and 6 auxes per console-- that would make it amazing. I just wish it had moving fader operation so I could control my DAW with it.
wow! This is awesome! I talked to sweetwater today about this and we are ordering two of them for our church front of house setup. This is going to be great for churches who want to go digital on a budget. Only thing though...it would be great to have the routing of the aux sends so that you could have 12 mono sends or 6 stereo for in-ear mixes when using two 16.4.2's. Also, having possibly 8 sub groups instead of the four. With that done...I dont see why anyone would want to go with a D-show over this unit! Thanks presonus! I have been using your digimax pres for years in my studio and now i am pumped abut using your products as front of house!
Yeah, we are working on the firmware to give you a psuedo 8 bus board when two of the StudioLive's are chained together. It would work like this: The subs of board #1 would be for the first 16 channels and the subs of board # 2 would be for the second 16 channels. However, all of the subgroups could feed into the MAINS. That is the plan as of now. We'll see if we can pull it off.
Hi, anxious for the StudioLive to arrive! I have a FireStudio Projects installed now. Will I need to uninstall its drivers before installing the StudioLive?
Right now the plan is to have just StudioLive's chained to each other. However, since the StudioLive uses the same chipset as the Firestudio Project and Tube, it's not to say that we could add daisy chaining between the SL and the Firestudio Tube/Project at a future time.
Right now the limit is 2. We might be able to to link 3 but at that point you will have to limit the number of firewire returns. The max is 64 streams. So, hypothetically, you could record 48 and playback 16 streams.
Enilson doens't know what he's talking about. If you want a DAW with motorized faders you should look elsewhere. This is not a DAW it's the way a PA mixer should be built! I had my Studio Live less than a month and love it. Wow what a great product! This is the perfect PA mixing board for live shows. Not to mention great for rehersals, recordings, etc... It saves me hunderds if not thousands of dollars on gates, compressors, limiters, effects...putting it all in one package ....eliminating dragging all that stuff around in my rack...and it sounds great. I can record off the show and mix down later with motorized faders in the studio afterwards. Plus with 6 aux's, I can send a different mix to each monitor. Maybe a couple years from now it might be a good idea to offer this unit both ways...with and without motorized faders. But Everyone is making a DAW controller. But this time Presonus considered the performing artist way to go Presonus!!!!!...for developing the best low cost expandable live PA mixer ever in this price range price!!!
Every serious digital live sound board has motorized faders, except this one. Also, driver support for my firestudio 26x26 has been horrendous, and it's still unreliable to this day. Features with Presonus are good, implementation is not. Stay away!
a 24 tracks would be wonderfull , or maybe daise chain with others products via light pipe just for 8 more chanels like motu do , i thing is very usefull . My bands needs just 22 tracks no more , instead to pay to times $2100 i would lik to pay $3000. Thanks for be presonous i love your contributions for the music.Yohualli Gonzalez music producer and soundingeniere from mexico nomascaiman@gmail.com
Awesome! One thing... When daisy chaining, I let the user select if the subgroups buses will sum or not. Think about.... if I need to "group channels" (e.g drums, percussion, back vocals, etc.) to main, I will able to do 4 different groups PER console (so "pseudo" 8 bus total), summed via master mix bus. Cheers!!!
ReplyDeleteHi Rens,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments. One product idea I had was a little usb remote for Capture that would simply arm all the tracks and give you a transport. (kinda like the old Alesis BRC was for the ADAT). Don't know if it would happen, but if enough StudioLive customers want it, I'm sure we'll make one.
Wow Rick, it's getting better and better... What about the good old (well, mine is pretty new actually) Mackie Control, will it be able to control Capture??
ReplyDeleteI posted this in another part of this blog but thought it might be a bit dated and so re-posted here. Just watched the videos and gotta say I'm impressed. I've been shopping for a mixer for several weeks now for my studio and almost committed to another brand. One question however. I can appreciate not including moving faders to keep the price down but will the faders generate any type of midi message at all. This would allow for automating your DAW faders while mixing in the box. This would allow for the option of either mixing via the board or in the daw. I can assign the faders on my Axiom keyboard to the faders in my daw but doing it with 100mm faders would allow for much greater control.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that it'd be possible in the future to also be able to use 6 auxes per console if you're daisy chaining? I was very excited when I heard that you could now daisy chain the mixers, but the idea of using 2 efx per console ****then in the future (if possible)**** having 4 subgroups, and 6 auxes per console-- that would make it amazing. I just wish it had moving fader operation so I could control my DAW with it.
ReplyDeleteYes, you can load Capture on multiple computers and use it with the same StudioLive board.
ReplyDeletewow! This is awesome! I talked to sweetwater today about this and we are ordering two of them for our church front of house setup. This is going to be great for churches who want to go digital on a budget. Only thing though...it would be great to have the routing of the aux sends so that you could have 12 mono sends or 6 stereo for in-ear mixes when using two 16.4.2's. Also, having possibly 8 sub groups instead of the four. With that done...I dont see why anyone would want to go with a D-show over this unit! Thanks presonus! I have been using your digimax pres for years in my studio and now i am pumped abut using your products as front of house!
ReplyDeleteYeah, we are working on the firmware to give you a psuedo 8 bus board when two of the StudioLive's are chained together. It would work like this: The subs of board #1 would be for the first 16 channels and the subs of board # 2 would be for the second 16 channels. However, all of the subgroups could feed into the MAINS. That is the plan as of now. We'll see if we can pull it off.
ReplyDeleteI just hope it sounds as good as it looks. If it does you guys will have a monster on your hands. Enough with the moving faders. Look at the price.
ReplyDeleteGreat work. Great thinking
Paul
Hi, anxious for the StudioLive to arrive! I have a FireStudio Projects installed now. Will I need to uninstall its drivers before installing the StudioLive?
ReplyDeleteRight now the plan is to have just StudioLive's chained to each other. However, since the StudioLive uses the same chipset as the Firestudio Project and Tube, it's not to say that we could add daisy chaining between the SL and the Firestudio Tube/Project at a future time.
ReplyDeleteRight now the limit is 2. We might be able to to link 3 but at that point you will have to limit the number of firewire returns. The max is 64 streams. So, hypothetically, you could record 48 and playback 16 streams.
ReplyDeleteEnilson doens't know what he's talking about. If you want a DAW with motorized faders you should look elsewhere. This is not a DAW it's the way a PA mixer should be built! I had my Studio Live less than a month and love it. Wow what a great product! This is the perfect PA mixing board for live shows. Not to mention great for rehersals, recordings, etc... It saves me hunderds if not thousands of dollars on gates, compressors, limiters, effects...putting it all in one package ....eliminating dragging all that stuff around in my rack...and it sounds great. I can record off the show and mix down later with motorized faders in the studio afterwards. Plus with 6 aux's, I can send a different mix to each monitor. Maybe a couple years from now it might be a good idea to offer this unit both ways...with and without motorized faders. But Everyone is making a DAW controller. But this time Presonus considered the performing artist way to go Presonus!!!!!...for developing the best low cost expandable live PA mixer ever in this price range price!!!
ReplyDeleteEvery serious digital live sound board has motorized faders, except this one. Also, driver support for my firestudio 26x26 has been horrendous, and it's still unreliable to this day. Features with Presonus are good, implementation is not. Stay away!
ReplyDeleteSInce the StudioLIve does not have physical MAIN inserts, what is the best way to get an EFX such as a BBE Sonic Maximizer into the MAIN outs?
ReplyDeletea 24 tracks would be wonderfull , or maybe daise chain with others products via light pipe just for 8 more chanels like motu do , i thing is very usefull . My bands needs just 22 tracks no more , instead to pay to times $2100 i would lik to pay $3000.
ReplyDeleteThanks for be presonous i love your contributions for the music.Yohualli Gonzalez music producer and soundingeniere from mexico nomascaiman@gmail.com